tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35658622.post5952904629795838289..comments2023-11-18T08:09:26.056+13:00Comments on Abandoned Footnotes: The Age of DemocracyXavier Marquezhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10099356104979121153noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35658622.post-4558382497530243312013-12-11T07:58:14.843+13:002013-12-11T07:58:14.843+13:00Good point. So the victory of democratic language ...Good point. So the victory of democratic language is even more complete...Xavier Marquezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10099356104979121153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35658622.post-33776892306280757152013-12-11T03:33:22.277+13:002013-12-11T03:33:22.277+13:00Also, please note that the words "democracy&q...Also, please note that the words "democracy"/"democratic" appear several times in the European Convention on Human Rights, incorporated in Schedule I to the Human Rights Act 1998 (UK), which is as close to a fundamental constitutional document as you will find in the UK.Andrew Yonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16810802752424050357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35658622.post-76804703201560209962013-12-10T19:21:05.418+13:002013-12-10T19:21:05.418+13:00Thanks Andrew - these proclamations are not in the...Thanks Andrew - these proclamations are not in the CCP archive, though I'd count them in (I wonder if that's why all the constitutional events in the CCP archive for Malaysia and Singapore are coded as "amendments"). Which would leave only 14 countries that have never mentioned democracy...Xavier Marquezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10099356104979121153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35658622.post-25794023149513392202013-12-10T18:29:49.967+13:002013-12-10T18:29:49.967+13:00Don't know if it counts, but the proclamations...Don't know if it counts, but the proclamations of independence of Malaya (1957), the formation of Malaysia (1963) and the independence of Singapore (1965) all have words to the effect of "... shall forever be a sovereign democratic and independent nation ..."Andrew Yonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16810802752424050357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35658622.post-60883425586672022632013-12-10T16:03:25.387+13:002013-12-10T16:03:25.387+13:00Thanks Jorge - looks useful.Thanks Jorge - looks useful.Xavier Marquezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10099356104979121153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35658622.post-53493273145326433032013-12-10T15:22:42.748+13:002013-12-10T15:22:42.748+13:00This may be helpful.
R. R. Palmer, "Notes on...This may be helpful. <br />R. R. Palmer, "Notes on the Use of the Word 'Democracy' 1789-1799," Political Science Quarterly, 68 (1953) 203-26, at p. 205.<br />Finley's Democracy Ancient and Modern brought me to it.<br />Greetings from Mexico.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06299628470975303389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35658622.post-47429700033508217252013-12-09T22:11:26.582+13:002013-12-09T22:11:26.582+13:00Thanks for commenting Tom! That's interesting ...Thanks for commenting Tom! That's interesting - and also a bit puzzling to me; it's not as if mentions of democracy can actually fool anyone who doesn't want to be fooled. <br /><br />Beck, Drori, and Meyer have a paper (http://iss.sagepub.com/content/27/4/483.short) where they report a similarly odd correlation between repression and the extent of human rights language; the more repressive the regime, the more it talks about rights (though I think they only look at current constitutions). Do you find similar correlations with other rights language, not just mentions of democracy?Xavier Marquezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10099356104979121153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35658622.post-40159747549715585482013-12-09T20:13:54.533+13:002013-12-09T20:13:54.533+13:00Thanks Xavier. I've tried to correlate our Co...Thanks Xavier. I've tried to correlate our Comparative Constitutions Project measure of mentions of democracy with the observed level of democracy (using either Przeworski et al or Polity). As you suggest above, there is essentially no correlation between a mention of democracy and actual democracy. But additionally, we ask about the number of mentions of democracy in a document, and that measure is (slightly) negatively correlated with actual measures of democracy. In other words, the less democratic the country, the more the constitution talks about democracy.Tom Ginsburgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35658622.post-77888234571868159502013-12-09T05:33:40.149+13:002013-12-09T05:33:40.149+13:00Anonymous, I've seen Dunn's recent big boo...Anonymous, I've seen Dunn's recent big book on the history of democracy, but haven't gotten around to reading it. I'll check it out.Xavier Marquezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10099356104979121153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35658622.post-24703582346927936652013-12-09T01:06:45.813+13:002013-12-09T01:06:45.813+13:00Great stuff as usual. I wonder if you are familiar...Great stuff as usual. I wonder if you are familiar with John Dunn's work on democracy? His starting point most often seems to be the registration of shock over the near-absolute rhetorical victory democracy has achieved over the past two-hundred or so years. You seem to be echoing many of Dunn's thoughts here. Thanks. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com