tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35658622.post9011527345783706800..comments2023-11-18T08:09:26.056+13:00Comments on Abandoned Footnotes: Spaces of Appearance, Spaces of Surveillance, and #OccupyWallStreetXavier Marquezhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10099356104979121153noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35658622.post-22764363458843317422011-10-29T15:08:29.953+13:002011-10-29T15:08:29.953+13:00Thanks Robbie! I try to get away in the paper from...Thanks Robbie! I try to get away in the paper from the public/private distinction; the key idea is about who can see and who can be seen, and how visibility either enhances collective action or subjects to the power of other people. So to describe the spaces you mention you'd have to articulate who is visible, who is invisible, and how such visibility subjects or empowers the particular people involved. But it's not so much ownership that matters, though I agree that that is a live issue here in NZ.Xavier Marquezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10099356104979121153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35658622.post-48336289299028234592011-10-28T17:52:26.862+13:002011-10-28T17:52:26.862+13:00Hey Xavier, awesome to see that that paper is comi...Hey Xavier, awesome to see that that paper is coming out! congrats! I think the paper absolutely speaks to some of the core issues of the Occupy X phenomenon. Have been down and spoken to/with the people at Occupy Wellington, a core group of which, we should be glad to acknowledge, are our first year pols students!! Yay! In terms of the particular politics of NZ, I think an issue arises which complicates both Foucault and Arendt. That is, the idea of spaces OTHER than public or private. That is, spaces that are not owned in the possessive-private sense (individually or corporately). Nor civic spaces. But spaces that form through and around particular basic purposes (Maori language ="kaupapa") which are protected (not possessively owned) by particular groups (kaitiaki). This is neither simply spatial in the sense of a "place", but can also inhere through a relationality of, e.g., politics, tasks, humans/nature etc. In NZ, the Occupy X has to deal with the fact that as a settler colony, that question of occupation has been alive for 170+ years. The critique of that occupation gets most fundamental when it questions the imported notions of space and ownership (especially private property / civic sphere) that came with the settlers. <br />Robbie (your colleague!)robbie shilliamnoreply@blogger.com